tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34993991.post1112894944309223459..comments2023-10-05T07:46:44.392-04:00Comments on And Now the Screaming Starts: Stuff: I know all there is to know about The Torture Game.CRwMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07896615209770501945noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34993991.post-29622425351034020512008-06-27T08:36:00.000-04:002008-06-27T08:36:00.000-04:00I was thinking about your post and trying to think...I was thinking about your post and trying to think of movies that do feature rape/sexual abuse in them. I came up with two - The Stendhal Syndrome and I Spit on your Grave. But like CRWM said - these are not mainstream movies. It's an interesting point also because I only watched each of these once and then promptly gave the dvds away. Yet I'll continue to watch other movies just as brutal multiple times. Somehow when you add the rape scenes it makes most hardcore horror fans uncomfortable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34993991.post-86989402086112852182008-06-26T10:14:00.000-04:002008-06-26T10:14:00.000-04:00Screamin' spacey,I suspect you are correct regardi...Screamin' spacey,<BR/><BR/>I suspect you are correct regarding the "path of least resistance" theory. The Citizen Gamer column states that the programmer is a fairly young, self-taught dude who cooked up the thing all by himself. Although, as I mentioned, he's hardly the first guy to come up with it. I couldn't draw up full history (I'm not much of a gamer), but I can think of a handful of games that explicitly incorporate torture into gameplay. Most in pretty cartoonish ways, but still.CRwMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896615209770501945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34993991.post-40949924457452586632008-06-26T10:04:00.000-04:002008-06-26T10:04:00.000-04:00ockerouac,Good points about the classical "punishm...ockerouac,<BR/><BR/>Good points about the classical "punishment" paradigm of sex and violence in horror. I think of that mostly as a slasher/80s thing, but I wonder how far back you can trace it.<BR/><BR/>You point about mainstream distribution is an important one too. There's probably plenty of sexually brutal stuff we could point too, but little of it probably makes it to the mainstream viewer. Though, in this case, the Torture Game 2 is distributed free through sites with no real content editorial policies. Fear of censorship wasn't a factor here. He could have done it if he wanted.CRwMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07896615209770501945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34993991.post-59052873498603376442008-06-25T21:15:00.000-04:002008-06-25T21:15:00.000-04:00I had a look at the game. It's not all that remark...I had a look at the game. It's not all that remarkable really. There are other, more creepily realistic rag doll sims out there on the web. This one feels like a bunch of blocks strung together. I think you'd have to "squint" to imagine it's a human, even if you can upload a face.<BR/><BR/>Anyone developing games or especially physics-based games or sims is probably going to create something like a "Torture Game" inadvertently in the process of development. This feels like it used the "path of least resistance" method of game design.<BR/><BR/>The two or three other flash-based sims I've seen could be used with in a way that seems like torture, but the sims themselves weren't explicitly graphically treated like this one to say yes, this is a torture toy. And it is more like a toy than a game.<BR/><BR/>(Speaking of sims, I think the potential for "torture" was explored pretty thoroughly by a lot of players of The Sims, and that was mostly just an unintended consequence of having such open-ended game rules.)<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, one thing I've always known, ever since seeing the first real-time 3D models on my home computer, is that eventually the tech will become accessible to people who want to create the most depraved stuff you can imagine. And it will eventually circulate around the web.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, maybe computer simulations will always appear crude to the contemporary eye. Even if in the future realtime 3D rendering in Flash is equivalent to present-day cinema quality CGI, it will still seem completely fake to its future audience.spacejackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14902182763527176185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34993991.post-61286110742713394012008-06-25T15:56:00.000-04:002008-06-25T15:56:00.000-04:00IMO, you hit the nail on the head by seeing that t...IMO, you hit the nail on the head by seeing that the marriage of violence and sexuality is a line we're still loathe to cross. Certainly, throughout the horror genre the two have existed together on more than the rare occasion, but in such a way that violence is the 'punishment' for inappropriate sex, rather than violent-sex being used as a punishment in and of itself. It just goes to show that fictional horror, for all it's grisly, over the top, unimaginable death sequences in many ways still pales in comparison to the real horrors that the human race subjects itself to...<BR/><BR/>Another factor may also be simply getting the material released to a viewing audience... You can make a film where a female breast is both fondled, and hacked into in the same film, so long as it's not the same character doing both... I'm guessing that would make it a lot harder to get distribution...<BR/><BR/>Great, insightful post as usual...OCKerouachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026976675774709272noreply@blogger.com